Looks like 6 mil with 1.5 mil in incentives. No word on a second year option. All joking aside, my reaction to this is similar to my reaction to the Cameron deal - they didn't overpay and filled a need. Hoffman hasn't really been a k/ip pitcher since his injury in 2003, but he's clearly been able to sustain success late into his career, most likely, as Melvin mentioned, because he's a changeup pitcher and doesn't put as much stress on his arm. I like this deal much, much better than paying $37M over three years to Francisco Rodriguez or $42 over four years to Francisco Cordero.
Looks like ol' Seth will only be needed for eight innings a game now.
This is really low BCB. We all know that we need to wait until the general manager of the team speaks about the deal to know it is done. Remember when the cubs traded for Brian Roberts 24 different times in 2006? Or when they traded for Mike Lowell over 45 times in '03?
Plus if you had waited, it would have given me the time to post my article "Brewers Sign Eric Gagne."
In all honesty, I'm going to get right back on the horse (remembering that I defended the Eric Gagne signing) and say this is probably a very good deal. I'll wait to see the $$, but I'm anticipating it to be in the $7M range for one year with the Brewers having an option in '10.
What kind of a pitcher is Hoffman? Hilarious with his Hell's Bells, that's for sure. But he's also a pitcher who is slowly declining, giving up many more HR and striking out fewer. He's not going to be a dominating force of a closer, but even in his decline represents an above average reliever. He was really, really good for a long time. At 41, he can probably still be good. Remember that the best hitter in MLB history, Barry Bonds, peaked that late in his career.
Can you imagine how fucking sarcastic I'm going to be when Hell's Bells starts playing and our closer with a 5.23 ERA and 4 blown save chances in 13 attempts comes menacingly strolling out of the bullpen?
Oh, and did I mention that the best hitter in baseball is still on the free agent market? Maybe the Brewers should sign that gentleman. And no, I'm not talking about Matt Stairs.
Would the Brewers be better off with Barry Bonds at third base? I sure as hell's bells think so.
Sorry about the Gagne article. You have to be pretty bored at work to beat me to the punch on things like this. I'm going to cheer the shit out of his 5k/9, 2.5hr/9 ass every opportunity I get. He's the motherfuckin saves leader!
Can Bonds pitch? Cause we could really use another starting pitcher.
I am very pleased with this move. I thought this should get done from the minute Trevor was not offered arbitration, and when he was open to coming here, it was a no-brainer. You guys have covered the statistical analysis, so I won't reiterate.
I've always liked Hoffman, and I would put him in the same category as a lot of the all-time greats that were free agents this off season, including Smoltz, Glavine, Martinez, RJ, and Jorge Julio.
Can't wait to hear Hells Bells at Miller park about 25 times this year.
I has the EXACT same post envisioned when I read the ticker yesterday, with the exeption that my post would have featured a comical picture of Larry King in a baseball hat rather than an actual picture of Hoffman, as seen in the Bub's post.
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Perhaps the only thing better would have been Angus Young on that walker.
Lordy, Lordy, what kind of $$ are they going to give Trev?
Looks like 6 mil with 1.5 mil in incentives. No word on a second year option. All joking aside, my reaction to this is similar to my reaction to the Cameron deal - they didn't overpay and filled a need. Hoffman hasn't really been a k/ip pitcher since his injury in 2003, but he's clearly been able to sustain success late into his career, most likely, as Melvin mentioned, because he's a changeup pitcher and doesn't put as much stress on his arm. I like this deal much, much better than paying $37M over three years to Francisco Rodriguez or $42 over four years to Francisco Cordero.
Looks like ol' Seth will only be needed for eight innings a game now.
This is really low BCB. We all know that we need to wait until the general manager of the team speaks about the deal to know it is done. Remember when the cubs traded for Brian Roberts 24 different times in 2006? Or when they traded for Mike Lowell over 45 times in '03?
Plus if you had waited, it would have given me the time to post my article "Brewers Sign Eric Gagne."
In all honesty, I'm going to get right back on the horse (remembering that I defended the Eric Gagne signing) and say this is probably a very good deal. I'll wait to see the $$, but I'm anticipating it to be in the $7M range for one year with the Brewers having an option in '10.
What kind of a pitcher is Hoffman? Hilarious with his Hell's Bells, that's for sure. But he's also a pitcher who is slowly declining, giving up many more HR and striking out fewer. He's not going to be a dominating force of a closer, but even in his decline represents an above average reliever. He was really, really good for a long time. At 41, he can probably still be good. Remember that the best hitter in MLB history, Barry Bonds, peaked that late in his career.
I'd have rather seen Smoltz, but this is fine.
Can you imagine how fucking sarcastic I'm going to be when Hell's Bells starts playing and our closer with a 5.23 ERA and 4 blown save chances in 13 attempts comes menacingly strolling out of the bullpen?
Oh, and did I mention that the best hitter in baseball is still on the free agent market? Maybe the Brewers should sign that gentleman. And no, I'm not talking about Matt Stairs.
Would the Brewers be better off with Barry Bonds at third base? I sure as hell's bells think so.
Sorry about the Gagne article. You have to be pretty bored at work to beat me to the punch on things like this. I'm going to cheer the shit out of his 5k/9, 2.5hr/9 ass every opportunity I get. He's the motherfuckin saves leader!
Can Bonds pitch? Cause we could really use another starting pitcher.
UPDATE: The deal will not be announced until Hoffman passes his prostate exam. Perhaps Condescendy's patience was prudent.
I can't wait to see all of the saves he got last year with two balls hit to the warning track turn into...well...you know.
I watched plenty of Padres games last year just because of Vasgersian.
He'll blow 8 saves before August.
I am very pleased with this move. I thought this should get done from the minute Trevor was not offered arbitration, and when he was open to coming here, it was a no-brainer. You guys have covered the statistical analysis, so I won't reiterate.
I've always liked Hoffman, and I would put him in the same category as a lot of the all-time greats that were free agents this off season, including Smoltz, Glavine, Martinez, RJ, and Jorge Julio.
Can't wait to hear Hells Bells at Miller park about 25 times this year.
by the way, check out what Bill James projects Trevor to do next year. Me likey.
Hands down, the funniest string of comments in a long while. Perhaps even of all 2009.
I has the EXACT same post envisioned when I read the ticker yesterday, with the exeption that my post would have featured a comical picture of Larry King in a baseball hat rather than an actual picture of Hoffman, as seen in the Bub's post.
PSA for those joining us from BrewCrewBall:
Bill Hall Sucks.
none of you caught me comparing Jorge Julio to a bunch of Hall of Famers? Did you guys think I was serious? Maybe I am.
I love me some Jorge.
Some RJ too, apparently.
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